BOOK OF MORMON SETTING. Many Latter-day Saints still believe what the prophets have taught about the New York Cumorah/Ramah. President Nelson: "Good inspiration is based upon good information." Here, we share good information from original sources that corroborates the prophets. We support the Church policy of neutrality, which promotes unity by recognizing multiple working hypotheses. We encourage all interested parties to do the same, all in the pursuit of clarity, charity and understanding.
long ago ideas
Friday, January 9, 2026
Tuesday, January 6, 2026
Dean Jessee - an awesome historian
Dean Jessee has passed away. Dean was one of a handful of important, influential LDS historians who were a big influence on me.
When I first delved into Church history with the research that led to my book The Lost City of Zarahemla, which among other things discussed the origin of the 1842 Times and Seasons articles that launched M2C, I met with Dean and showed him what I had discovered. He was enthusiastic and strongly encouraged me to keep working on Church history, which I did. He even wanted me to come teach his High Priests Quorum someday, but I had too many other Sunday commitments and never was able to do that.
Dean wanted to make original documents available to Latter-day Saints everywhere, which led to the Joseph Smith Papers.
He was not interested in pursuing or promoting specific narratives the way so many other LDS historians do today.
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Here's an excellent article about Dean Jessee.
As the article notes,
In the nearly 40 years Jessee then proceeded to work in the office and Church History Department, he published several works including a series of journal articles for BYU Studies, a book titled “The Personal Writings of Joseph Smith,” and two volumes of “The Papers of Joseph Smith.” These scholarly works were among the first published on Joseph Smith’s documents, Esplin said.
I still remember the day I was reading these books and saw, for the first time, the letter Joseph wrote to Emma that included this passage:
The whole of our journey, in the midst of so large a company of social honest men and sincere men, wandering over the plains of the Nephites, recounting occasionally the history of the Book of Mormon, roving over the mounds of that once beloved people of the Lord, picking up their skulls & their bones, as a proof of its divine authenticity...
https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/letterbook-2/62
I thought, why haven't I heard about this before?
And if Joseph Smith considered the mounds of Ohio, Indiana, and Illinois as "proof of the divine authenticity" of the Book of Mormon, why do modern LDS scholars reject what he said?
Those questions led me to do more research and eventually write Moroni's America.
Naturally, the M2Cers have a rationale for rejecting what Joseph wrote. They say he was merely speculating and he was wrong. Or else he was talking about the "hinterlands" of Book of Mormon events.
M2C is such a farce.
If more LDS historians and other intellectuals followed Dean Jessee's example of seeking truth instead of promoting narratives, Latter-day Saints around the world would be far better informed, less confused, and would share with Joseph Smith the realization that the setting of the Book of Mormon is proof of its divine authenticity.
Blessings to Dean's family.
Monday, January 5, 2026
Retrospective on President Holland
Monday, December 15, 2025
Gift ideas and other things to read
Due to heavy travel, I haven't posted for a while. I have some cool new stuff but I'll wait until January to post it.
In the meantime, here are my two favorite books of 2025.
Expressions of Jesus
https://www.deseretbook.com/product/6080309.html?cgid=books
The Rational Restoration: Reframes in the pursuit of clarity, charity and understanding.
Second Edition
https://www.amazon.com/Rational-Restoration-Jonathan-Neville/dp/1964978319
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When people email me with questions, I usually refer them to the Museum of the Book of Mormon (MOBOM) which has lots of resources:
Those interested in art can see some great pieces at my art blog, here:
https://artandartistsonline.blogspot.com/
For a discussion of LDS historical narratives, go here:
https://www.ldshistoricalnarratives.com/
The Jonathan Edwards blog is here:
https://dailyjonathanedwards.blogspot.com/
The Zion blog is here:
Thursday, November 20, 2025
Most popular post and page
Wednesday, November 19, 2025
End of M2C and psychology
The pursuit of clarity, charity and understanding proceeds nicely for those who have an open mind, who value transparency, and who embrace the FAITH analysis, distinguishing Facts from Assumptions, Inferences, Theories and Hypotheses.
Another way to say it: If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things.
Here's another way to express the value of flexibility in the pursuit of truth:
Monday, September 2. There is much folly, when I am quite sure I am in the right, and others are positive in contradicting me, in entering into a vehement or long debate upon it.
Monday, September 23. I observe that old men seldom have any advantage of new discoveries; because these are beside a way of thinking they have been so long used to. Resolved, if ever I live to years, that I will be impartial to hear the reasons of all pretended discoveries, and receive them, if rational, how long soever I have been used to another way of thinking.
Monday, Feb. 3. Let every thing have the value now, that it will have on a sick bed; and frequently in my pursuits of whatever kind, let this come into my mind; “How much shall I value this on my deathbed?”
Monday, November 17, 2025
D&C 132
This topic of Section 132 relates to the Come Follow Me lesson. I posted comments on lds historical narratives here:
https://www.ldshistoricalnarratives.com/2025/11/corroborating-josephs-production-of-d.html
Somewhat related to the origin and setting of the Book of Mormon, I did a review of another Interpreter article, this one on D&C 132, here:
https://interpreterpeerreviews.blogspot.com/2025/11/more-stylometry-d-132.html
Let's all hope that at some point, LDS scholars will focus on what Joseph and Oliver said about the origin and setting of the Book of Mormon, not what their detractors claimed.
And definitely not what certain modern scholars think, especially those who claim to know more than Joseph and Oliver did about those topics.
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